La Warner a confirme sortir en 2005 pour les 25 ans du film une nouvelle version (le richard donner cut) de Superman II incluant un nouveau début, des scenes avec Marlon Brando,...
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Superman II - Richard Lester (1980)
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Superman II - Richard Lester (1980)
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Selon mes connaissances, Richard Donner aurait du realiser les deux Superman (filmés a la suite si je ne me trompe pas). Seulement des problemes entre Donner et les producteurs ont fait que Donner s'est fait remplacer par un autre et que ce dernier a refilmé certaines scenes du II deja dans la boite (par Donner). Donc le Superman II que nous connaissons est un mix des deux realisateurs.
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exact. Après, il éxiste des montages TV plus longs pour SII, inédits en France et qui incluent des scènes tournées par Donner, mais invisbles dans le montage cinéma /VHS / DVDToussaint a écrit :Selon mes connaissances, Richard Donner aurait du realiser les deux Superman (filmés a la suite si je ne me trompe pas). Seulement des problemes entre Donner et les producteurs ont fait que Donner s'est fait remplacer par un autre et que ce dernier a refilmé certaines scenes du II deja dans la boite (par Donner). Donc le Superman II que nous connaissons est un mix des deux realisateurs.
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un petit aperçu des scenes inedites
http://www.patfullerton.com/superman/cutscenes.html
la version donner en details
http://superman.rossiters.com/s2_main.html
http://www.patfullerton.com/superman/cutscenes.html
la version donner en details
http://superman.rossiters.com/s2_main.html
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Les gars, je ne veux pas casser ce beau rêve mais bon, l'existence de ce DVD est très hypothétique. En effet, sur le lien filé par John Trent, c'est en fait une lettre envoyé par un fan au président de Warner pour lui dire que ce serait génial pour les 25 ans du film de le ressortir avec toutes les scènes coupées et le montage de Donner.
Ce à quoi, il est répondu que effectivement warner aimerait travailler dessus mais que c'est bloqué pour des questions de droit.
C'est du moins ce que j'ai compris d'après mes petites connaissances en anglais.
je vous fais un copier-coller du texte pour qu'éventuellement, je l'espère, on vienne me dire que j'ai tout faux.Parce quoi, croyez moi, je suis aussi dégoûté que vous.
Warner Bros. want to do a new Superman 2 DVD; hopefully to include all the unseen Donner footage and possibly an extended cut of the film. The letter campaign on 19th June was successful, the idea was to bombard WB with letters and emails, the studio did respond.
Here's a letter followed by the response:
Mr. Jim Cardwell
President
Warner Home Video
4000 Warner Blvd.
Burbank, CA 91522
818-954-6000
Hemant Kaul
Dear Mr. Cardwell,
Next year, 2005, marks the 25th anniversary of the release of Superman
II. As you know, Superman I and II were monumental achievements in the
history of Warner Brothers, and paved the way for other comic book-
based successes, such as the Batman films and Smallville.
As a life-long Superman fan, I can think of no better way to honor this
film than to allow Richard Donner to finally re-edit it to his original
vision and offer it as a special 25th Anniversary DVD release. This
would include the following (as well as several other changes):
* Donner's original opening, where the nuclear warhead Superman hurls
into space in Superman I frees the Kryptonian criminals from the
Phantom Zone.
* The beginning sequences at the Daily Planet where Lois jumps out of
the window to prove that Clark is actually Superman.
* The scenes with Marlon Brando where he helps Clark regain his powers.
I had fervently hoped that this would have been done with the Superman
Collection DVD release in 2001. The extras on the Superman I DVD talked
about Donner's Superman II, but failed to offer a new edit or any of
Donner's deleted footage. It was a story only half complete, and the
25th anniversary is an excellent time to tell the rest.
Mr. Donner has expressed in several interviews his desire to complete
this project. Please give him this opportunity. I guarantee that it
will be worth the investment. I will be one of the first in line to
purchase it.
Thank you and best regards,
Warner Home Video is supportive of an extended version of Superman II on DVD. However, there are complex legal and creative issues that need to be resolved before the film can be re-released. Warner Home Video is presently addressing these issues.
Jim
Réponse de la warner:
WB have been aware of the demand for a while now. It was the most requested DVD title at the Home Theater Forum which studios frequent. I can tell you that Ilya Salkind was keen on the idea before the original dvds were released; I expect this hasn't changed; hopefully all parties can resolve the issues quickley!
Even better news is that the project will have Donner onboard if and when WB ask him. James Christie, the author of a book forthcoming on Donner and his films relayed this information to me:
Thought you and the visitors to your website may be interested to know that I had the chance to talk to Donner today about Superman II. There will be more info in my forthcoming book but I would like you all to know the following:
1. Donner never received any calls from Pierre Spengler after Superman The Movie was released.
2. He never received any phone calls from Dick Lester either.
3. A restored DVD version of SII with Donner scenes included will go ahead as long as he is asked to do it. He told me he would love for it to happen, but he must be asked to do it by Warners. They are the stumbling block, not him.
4. He was very upset at the handling of Superman's 're-release' in 2001. He says it was deliberately sabotaged by Warners and those behind the new Superman project, hence why he decided not to go to San Antonio.
Reste plus qu'à espérer qu'effectivement les problèmes légaux se règlent facilement.
Ce à quoi, il est répondu que effectivement warner aimerait travailler dessus mais que c'est bloqué pour des questions de droit.
C'est du moins ce que j'ai compris d'après mes petites connaissances en anglais.
je vous fais un copier-coller du texte pour qu'éventuellement, je l'espère, on vienne me dire que j'ai tout faux.Parce quoi, croyez moi, je suis aussi dégoûté que vous.
Warner Bros. want to do a new Superman 2 DVD; hopefully to include all the unseen Donner footage and possibly an extended cut of the film. The letter campaign on 19th June was successful, the idea was to bombard WB with letters and emails, the studio did respond.
Here's a letter followed by the response:
Mr. Jim Cardwell
President
Warner Home Video
4000 Warner Blvd.
Burbank, CA 91522
818-954-6000
Hemant Kaul
Dear Mr. Cardwell,
Next year, 2005, marks the 25th anniversary of the release of Superman
II. As you know, Superman I and II were monumental achievements in the
history of Warner Brothers, and paved the way for other comic book-
based successes, such as the Batman films and Smallville.
As a life-long Superman fan, I can think of no better way to honor this
film than to allow Richard Donner to finally re-edit it to his original
vision and offer it as a special 25th Anniversary DVD release. This
would include the following (as well as several other changes):
* Donner's original opening, where the nuclear warhead Superman hurls
into space in Superman I frees the Kryptonian criminals from the
Phantom Zone.
* The beginning sequences at the Daily Planet where Lois jumps out of
the window to prove that Clark is actually Superman.
* The scenes with Marlon Brando where he helps Clark regain his powers.
I had fervently hoped that this would have been done with the Superman
Collection DVD release in 2001. The extras on the Superman I DVD talked
about Donner's Superman II, but failed to offer a new edit or any of
Donner's deleted footage. It was a story only half complete, and the
25th anniversary is an excellent time to tell the rest.
Mr. Donner has expressed in several interviews his desire to complete
this project. Please give him this opportunity. I guarantee that it
will be worth the investment. I will be one of the first in line to
purchase it.
Thank you and best regards,
Warner Home Video is supportive of an extended version of Superman II on DVD. However, there are complex legal and creative issues that need to be resolved before the film can be re-released. Warner Home Video is presently addressing these issues.
Jim
Réponse de la warner:
WB have been aware of the demand for a while now. It was the most requested DVD title at the Home Theater Forum which studios frequent. I can tell you that Ilya Salkind was keen on the idea before the original dvds were released; I expect this hasn't changed; hopefully all parties can resolve the issues quickley!
Even better news is that the project will have Donner onboard if and when WB ask him. James Christie, the author of a book forthcoming on Donner and his films relayed this information to me:
Thought you and the visitors to your website may be interested to know that I had the chance to talk to Donner today about Superman II. There will be more info in my forthcoming book but I would like you all to know the following:
1. Donner never received any calls from Pierre Spengler after Superman The Movie was released.
2. He never received any phone calls from Dick Lester either.
3. A restored DVD version of SII with Donner scenes included will go ahead as long as he is asked to do it. He told me he would love for it to happen, but he must be asked to do it by Warners. They are the stumbling block, not him.
4. He was very upset at the handling of Superman's 're-release' in 2001. He says it was deliberately sabotaged by Warners and those behind the new Superman project, hence why he decided not to go to San Antonio.
Reste plus qu'à espérer qu'effectivement les problèmes légaux se règlent facilement.
"Je dis aux jeunes : la fête, c'est la vie. La vie, c'est ton visage !" (Hommage à un disparu: Jean Pierre Raffarin)
Et là BOUM chez Warner France.Le Cancre a écrit :Et si cette nouvelle édition sort il y aura un redoublage à la clef comme pour le premier...
Promis que si c'est redoublé, je les plastique.
Je veillerais toujours sur vous.
Dans ma forteresse de solitude
Dans ma forteresse de solitude