Saga STAR WARS en dvd bluray ld...
Modérateurs : Karen, savoy1, DeVilDead Team
De plus en plus evident que des changements ont eu lieu !
http://www.kamuiweb.com/sitev3/html/mod ... oryid=1034
http://www.kamuiweb.com/sitev3/html/mod ... oryid=1034
"The only way to have a friend is to be one."
~ Ralph Waldo Emerson
~ Ralph Waldo Emerson
Visiblement, il semblerait qu'il s'agisse peut etre, dans l'eventualité que l'on y pense, de possible et probables Work in Progress des DVD. Sur les 2 vidéos du lien que j'ai donné juste au dessus, le sabre de Vader change de couleur du rouge vers le rose dans presque chaque plan et le choc entre les 2 sabres devant la tete de l'empereur n'est visiblement pas finalisé (c'est le meme que dans le trailer DVD des Années Lasers).
"The only way to have a friend is to be one."
~ Ralph Waldo Emerson
~ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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tromate
- Messages : 161
- Enregistré le : lun. mai 03, 2004 1:28 pm
- Localisation : dans une taverne crasseuse
et oui, ils on bel et bien été piraté lol!!!!!
et tant mieux....car comme ca il sera vert!!!
ca lui apprendra a faire du pognon sur notre dos! non mais...il croyait pas ke j'allais me ruer ds mon magasin pour la lui acheter sa trilogie pourri !!!!!
l'original ou rien!!!!! heureusement ke g mes vieille copie vhs de kan j'etais gamin!!!!
et tant mieux....car comme ca il sera vert!!!
ca lui apprendra a faire du pognon sur notre dos! non mais...il croyait pas ke j'allais me ruer ds mon magasin pour la lui acheter sa trilogie pourri !!!!!
l'original ou rien!!!!! heureusement ke g mes vieille copie vhs de kan j'etais gamin!!!!
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Romain
- Messages : 4254
- Enregistré le : mar. juin 08, 2004 11:29 pm
- Localisation : Metz/le village
- Contact :
La claque!!!
http://www.r2d2menace.com/
et un lien pour la scene où HAN grimpe sur la queue de JABBA...
http://www.sithclan.net/SC4/accueil/inc ... hp?id=6926
http://www.r2d2menace.com/
et un lien pour la scene où HAN grimpe sur la queue de JABBA...
http://www.sithclan.net/SC4/accueil/inc ... hp?id=6926
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Jérôme
- Messages : 7653
- Enregistré le : ven. avr. 30, 2004 9:30 am
- Localisation : A la recherche du bonus ultime
- Contact :
on en parlait sur je sais plus quel thread :
le détail des différents Making of et documentaires produits autour de la première trilogie et qui ne sortiront pas en DVD.
http://www.sithclan.net/SC4/accueil/inc ... .php?id=52
le détail des différents Making of et documentaires produits autour de la première trilogie et qui ne sortiront pas en DVD.
http://www.sithclan.net/SC4/accueil/inc ... .php?id=52
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Mercador
- Messages : 1771
- Enregistré le : ven. avr. 30, 2004 8:31 am
- Localisation : Somewhere that's green
Bon, maintenant qu'on frise l'overdose avec toutes ces images de la trilogie modifiée ad nauseam, rien de tel qu'une longue et passionnante interview de Gary Kurtz, producteur de Star Wars et d'Empire.
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/376/3 ... ?fromint=1
quelques extraits:
At the very tail-end of the shooting of Star Wars, when Laddy had seen more of the footage, they started to come back with saying – "Well, how much would it be to just to maybe save these sets or shoot part of another movie and make a sequel which could be done kind of on the cheap." And we said there was no way we could do that, because we didn't have a script, and there was no time to write a script, and anyway it would probably be quite different, and if they wanted a sequel we had to do it properly. The idea kind of faded away at that time, because we were just interested in getting the film made.
sur ce que devait être l'Episode I et Le retour du Jedi
After this idea of more films came up, he (George Lucas) did several interviews where he said he had story material to do nine films – three prequels and three sequels. That was the accepted story, basically, and there was quite a bit of material both before and after the Star Wars lump. So there was no decision to do either one... it was kind of a red herring in a way, because there was no immediate thought to make any other films right away.
Well a lot of the prequel ideas were very, very vague. It's really difficult to say. I can't remember much about that at all, except dealing with the Clone Wars and the formation of the Jedi Knights in the first place – that was supposed to be one of the keys of Episode I, was going to be how the Jedi Knights came to be. But all of those notes were abandoned completely. One of the reasons Jedi came out the way it did was because the story outline of how Jedi was going to be seemed to get tossed out, and one of the reasons I was really unhappy was the fact that all of the carefully constructed story structure of characters and things that we did in Empire was going to carry over into Jedi. The resolution of that film was going to be quite bittersweet, with Han Solo being killed, and the princess having to take over as queen of what remained of her people, leaving everybody else. In effect, Luke was left on his own. None of that happened, of course.
A propos de l'edition spéciale où désormais Greedo tire en 1er:
Yeah, I really was livid about that one. I think it was a total – it ruins the scene, basically. The scene was never intended that way. Han Solo realized that Greedo was out to get him and he had to blast him first or he would lose his life. It shows you how much of a mercenary he is. That's what the point of the scene was. And so the way they've changed it around, it loses the whole impact of that whole aspect of it. (...) Well, he can say that was his original intention, but we could have shot it that way very easily. There was no reason that it couldn't have been shot that way. It was shot and edited the way it was because that's the way the script was. That's what he wanted at the time.
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/376/3 ... ?fromint=1
quelques extraits:
At the very tail-end of the shooting of Star Wars, when Laddy had seen more of the footage, they started to come back with saying – "Well, how much would it be to just to maybe save these sets or shoot part of another movie and make a sequel which could be done kind of on the cheap." And we said there was no way we could do that, because we didn't have a script, and there was no time to write a script, and anyway it would probably be quite different, and if they wanted a sequel we had to do it properly. The idea kind of faded away at that time, because we were just interested in getting the film made.
sur ce que devait être l'Episode I et Le retour du Jedi
After this idea of more films came up, he (George Lucas) did several interviews where he said he had story material to do nine films – three prequels and three sequels. That was the accepted story, basically, and there was quite a bit of material both before and after the Star Wars lump. So there was no decision to do either one... it was kind of a red herring in a way, because there was no immediate thought to make any other films right away.
Well a lot of the prequel ideas were very, very vague. It's really difficult to say. I can't remember much about that at all, except dealing with the Clone Wars and the formation of the Jedi Knights in the first place – that was supposed to be one of the keys of Episode I, was going to be how the Jedi Knights came to be. But all of those notes were abandoned completely. One of the reasons Jedi came out the way it did was because the story outline of how Jedi was going to be seemed to get tossed out, and one of the reasons I was really unhappy was the fact that all of the carefully constructed story structure of characters and things that we did in Empire was going to carry over into Jedi. The resolution of that film was going to be quite bittersweet, with Han Solo being killed, and the princess having to take over as queen of what remained of her people, leaving everybody else. In effect, Luke was left on his own. None of that happened, of course.
A propos de l'edition spéciale où désormais Greedo tire en 1er:
Yeah, I really was livid about that one. I think it was a total – it ruins the scene, basically. The scene was never intended that way. Han Solo realized that Greedo was out to get him and he had to blast him first or he would lose his life. It shows you how much of a mercenary he is. That's what the point of the scene was. And so the way they've changed it around, it loses the whole impact of that whole aspect of it. (...) Well, he can say that was his original intention, but we could have shot it that way very easily. There was no reason that it couldn't have been shot that way. It was shot and edited the way it was because that's the way the script was. That's what he wanted at the time.
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umbertolenzi
- Messages : 385
- Enregistré le : sam. mai 01, 2004 6:33 pm
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je me disais la même chose!!! 
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Mercador
- Messages : 1771
- Enregistré le : ven. avr. 30, 2004 8:31 am
- Localisation : Somewhere that's green
umbertolenzi a écrit :Ah tiens ça faisait longtemps qu'on nous avait pas balancé Kurtz dans les pattes pour nous expliquer à quel point ce visionnaire avait souffert sous la domination du méchant Lucas
J'ai mis le lien parce que j'y ai découvert plein de choses intéressantes sur la génèse de Star Wars et de la conception de ses suites (Empire et Jedi) que je ne connaissais pas. J'ai trouvé également ses commentaires sur les changements apportés dans l'édition spéciale de Star Wars version 1997 particulièrement pertinents par rapport au script d'origine.