Daredevil - 2003 - Mark Steven Johnson

[Fatalis rex]

Oui alors tant qu'à faire, autant d'abord lire le BORN AGAIN de Frank Miller et David Mazuchelli

Je ne remets pas en cause la periode Miller (l'age d'or de DD pour moi)...

c'était surtout pour dire que SOUS L'AILE DU DIABLE doit pas mal à BORN AGAIN (au passage le meilleur comic-book que j'ai pu lire en 26 ans), qui mérite 100 fois plus (bon allez 10 fois plus) d'être encensé.

[Leguman]

Je connais pas le sujet.
Mais peut etre que ceci peut vous interesser:

Source News Askew

Popular writer Brian Bendis has revealed that he's hoping to get Kevin back on board for a "What if..." Daredevil storyline that he's got planned:

I have wanted Marvel to bring back 'What If…' in any capacity for so long. So, I jumped all over it when it was finally approved. In the first issue I'm doing a Daredevil story, 'What if Karen Page had lived?' In the great 'What If…' tradition we're taking Daredevil down a path that only could only be imagined in the regular title. It's Alex Maleev and me with a cover by Joe Quesada. I believe Kevin Smith will be contributing on some level. He's supposed to co-write it with me, but if he doesn't I'll just write it. I wanted to drag his ass back to comics, whether he liked it or not! We'll see if he can squeeze it in."

That's right, writer/director Kevin Smith will be making a return to comics after an extended absence.

"I thought it was one of those things that would be great to do together," continued Bendis. "Basically, I want to mesh our two 'Daredevil' arcs. In other words, where I took Daredevil versus where he had Daredevil. I thought it would be interesting and we'll see what happens. If not, I'll just do it. I'm not making any promises, see what I'm doing here?"

Sounds GREAT to us! We'd love to see Kevin back in the writing fold, even co-writing with Bendis would be way cool and
probably help with all of those looming deadlines. We'll keep you posted if we hear more.

[Prodigy]

Du moment qu'ils en font pas un film avec Ben Affleck....

[niko13]

c'était surtout pour dire que SOUS L'AILE DU DIABLE doit pas mal à BORN AGAIN (au passage le meilleur comic-book que j'ai pu lire en 26 ans), qui mérite 100 fois plus (bon allez 10 fois plus) d'être encensé.

Euh..."Born Again" c'est pas confidentiel non plus hein , generalement tout ce qu'a sorti Miller sur DD est considere comme culte et fait office de reference incontournable pour les auteurs qui lui ont succede, "Born Again" ne fait pas exception.
Le grand merite de "Guardian Devil", en plus d'etre une sacree bonne histoire pleine d'emotions et de suspense, est surtout d'avoir redonne un interet au personnage de DD, et relance la serie (qui cartonne desormais avec Bendis aux manettes).

[tuor]

je suis en pleine lecture, re-lecture de DD version miller, et le plus gros constat que je fais, c'est de réaliser à quel point dans le film ils ont gâché ( entre autres choses ) le perso du tireur !!! le caid et Elektra aussi c'est vrai mais le tireur c'est le pire... et pourtant j'attends quand même cette VL avec impatience, et je ne peux m'empêcher de prendre du plaisir à regarder ce film, va comprendre...


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[diesel]

Pffff..... Encore un attrape couillon. Ca fait des mois qu'on nous fait miroiter une version de 2h30. Et total, hop, 20 minables minutes en plus pour péniblement arriver à 2h. Marre de ces fausses versions longues.

[niko13]

Plus d'infos sur la "director's cut" (chope sur le forum Mad Movies, poste par le forumeur he_VILE_dead, et issu d'une autre source):

This review will only focus on the Director's Cut. You can read my review of the theatrical release here.

I should start out by saying that I enjoyed Daredevil. I thought the film was a good popcorn flick and I thought it was blasted unfairly by critics ready to unload on "Bennifer". So what did I think of this "Director's Cut"? To be honest, I didn't think it was any better or worse than the theatrical version. The core story is more or less the same. The advantage of the Director's Cut is that it shows a bit more of some of the characters and fleshes them out a little more. If you liked the film, then this is a good thing. If you hated the original cut of Daredevil, this won't be anything special for you.

As already mentioned, there's 30 minutes of extra footage added here and there throughout the film. Some of the additions are nothing more than a line of dialogue added to an existing scene. Other additions are entirely new subplots. You may find it interesting to note that some of the scenes from the theatrical version were actually removed entirely from this Director's Cut. Here are some of the most notable additions and deletions from the film:

- When young Matt Murdock is blinded and in the hospital, a nun leans over him and kisses his forehead. Later on throughout the film the nun is seen watching him in the background. Readers of the comic will realize that this is his mother.

- Before the action starts in the biker bar, we see a female bartender yelling at some of the bikers. They bring their motorcycles into the bar, pour alcohol behind the tires, then rev their engines and light it on fire as a woman lifts her top in front of them. This was likely part of the reason why this version got an R-rating. Later on as Daredevil fights the bikers, the fight scenes are extended and a little more brutal. To be honest I thought it was a better cut of the fight scene and it made me appreciate the choreography more.

- When Matt and Foggy are in the coffee house, their conversation is extended. We learn that Foggy once got Matt a seeing eye dog. The dog left him, thus reinforcing that Matt has relationship issues. If you liked Jon Favreau as Franklin 'Foggy' Nelson, you'll be glad to see more of him through this whole film.

- There are a number of shots in Matt's apartment showing him getting ready in the morning, putting salt in his sensory deprivation tank, etc. Not much, but you get more insight in his day to day life.

- The first fight scene between Elektra and Matt in the playground has an alternate ending. After telling Matt her name, Elektra's bodyguard arrives and drives her away. You find out that she ducked away from them and that she's from the wealthy Natchios family all in one whack. I think I preferred the original version better.

- Bullseye is seen arriving at the airport to board his plane. You see him going through airport security, being wanded, and intimidating the security guards. He also reveals that he keeps a paperclip in his mouth.

- After Elektra and Matt have their touchy-feely moment in the rain, Matt hears the mugging happening on the street below. Instead of staying with Elektra and cutting to the love scene, he ditches her and fights the mugger. So the love scene is entirely cut from the film.

- When Wilson Fisk is first introduced, he reveals that there is a leak in his organization, then he proceeds to brutally kill his two bodyguards. This makes his character even more lethal.

- Matt is shown periodically going to the church at night and having conversations with the priest. The scene of him in confession is cut entirely from the film. Instead the priest repeatedly tries to get him to come to church on Sunday throughout the film.

- In one of the biggest additions to the film, Matt Murdoch is shown defending Daunte Jackson (played by Coolio) in a murder case. Daunte is accused of killing a prostitute while high on marijuana. Using his "lie detector" senses, Matt believes he is innocent and takes his case. Foggy and Matt are shown going to the apartment of the murdered prostitute to look for clues. Matt uses his heightened senses to smell gunpowder that was used in the room, detect writing impressions in the desk, and more. (Incidentally, earlier in the film Matt's heightened hearing detects the prostitute taking her last breaths after she is shot. Unfortunately, Matt can't do anything to help her.) Our heroes are later shown in court defending Daunte. They also try to get the jury's sympathy by playing up that Matt is blind. Through more investigation and help from Ben Urich, Matt later finds that a dirty cop is involved and that the Kingpin was connected to the murder. This little case ends up being the one that exposes that Wilson Fisk is the Kingpin. This is probably the best of the additions since it is like a short movie on its own. It also shows Matt defending the underdog in court and it features more of Foggy Nelson.

- There are a couple more scenes showing Ben Urich figuring out that Matt Murdoch is Daredevil. At the end of the film he even confronts Matt on the steps on the cathedral and lets him know that he's about to expose him in the paper.

- Instead of saying, "I want a bloody costume", Bullseye says "I want a f******g costume." Again, this probably contributed to the R rating.

- The final battle between Fisk and Daredevil has a few more moves and a bit more brutal action. It's a better cut.

- In the theatrical version at the end of the credits, you saw Bullseye in traction in the hospital. This is now at the end of the film itself along with a scene of Wilson Fisk being locked in jail.

These aren't all of the changes, but as you can see there's quite a bit changed in this version of the film even though the core story remains the same. If you're a Daredevil fan, this is a required addition to your collection. If you didn't think much of Daredevil the first time around, this Director's Cut probably won't win you over either.

Merde, ma curiosite est affutee, maintenant je veux la voir cette version...

[Melvin]

If you're a Daredevil fan, this is a required addition to your collection

Etant grand fan de DD une phrase comme ça me fait bien rigoler, ils auraient vraiment put faire un super film sur Tête à cornes, tous les fans de Daredevil seront d'accord là dessus, il suffisait d'adapter du Frank Miller ou bien d'utiliser le vrai scenario de film pour DD qui a finalement été utilisé pour faire le comic 'Daredevil l'homme sans peur' coll. top BD 35 36.

Dommage.

Un jour peut être DD aura droit à une adaptation à sa hauteur.

[ctiss]

et comment est le director's cut de spawn?

Je sais qu'il se traine une réputation épouvantable mais si ce director's cut rajoute un peu plus de violence, ça peut m 'intéresser.


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[Fatalis rex]

Il pourront remonter ce film dans tous les sens, ça n'enlèvera jamais rien à la piètre prestation des acteurs qui ont l'air de se croire dans un Disney. Sauf Ben Affleck, quitte à me faire écarteler par 4 Land Rover dans l'arène du forum : il est vraiment le seul qui semble essayer de croire au personnage et d'y donner un peu de profondeur. Et il y parvient bien mieux que l'autre gros connard de Farell qui a avoué à demi-mot en avoir fait des tonnes dans son jeu pour ruiner le film.

Bref : je trouve que le film démarre vraiment bien dans son évocation de l'enfance de Murdock, la représentation du sens radar est super bien illustrée, mais ça part en cacahuète quand les autres protagonistes font leurs apparition tant ils sont ridicules dans leurs costumes branchouilles, et leurs interprétations à côté de la plaque.

On retrouve un semblant d'esprit comics quand même sur la fin, lors de l'affrontement sauvage de DD contre le Caïd.

[Lurdo]

Je sais pas pourquoi, mais je sens que ce Director's Cut va me faire marrer.... ne serait-ce que parce que je pressens qu'ils n'auront pas pensé à refaire le plan de la réflexion du "DD" enflammé à l'envers dans les lunettes du journaleux...

[Personne]

Si quelqu'un pouvait me confirmer la présence de sous-titres français sur le zone 1, chose pratiquement inédite chez fox!!!

merci

[Daoloth]

Si quelqu'un pouvait me confirmer la présence de sous-titres français sur le zone 1, chose pratiquement inédite chez fox!!!

merci

Pas de sous titres mais une VF apparament (pour le director's cut)

[Ruben]

Pas tout à fait... Grosse erreur sur la jaquette et même les menus du Zone 1 Fox: Le disque ne présente aucune VF (bien qu'indiquée donc...) mais bien des sous-titres en français! Ne pas se fier à la jaquette ni aux menus donc !

[Ruben]

Petite rectif : VF présente et on passe à la VO avec sous-titres français sur les parties ajoutées du director's cut... Pas de sous-titres français sur l'intégralité du film donc... re